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Elwyn Hudson's avatar

I wish the Pay Pal mafia would go to mars and stay there. We can tell them that we miss them very much as they blast off, on their adventures of a Ayn Rand utopia.

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GhostoftheWhiteRose's avatar

Since they all like to escape so much, I am curious as to why none of them joined the Second Life virtual world. Or maybe they did but couldn't manipulate it enough to reach their goals?

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James Burnham's avatar

Wow, just wow.

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Nancy G's avatar

They want "freedom" for themselves to do as they wish without any kind of constraint from government or other people's opinions. They think if they can be free to do whatever comes to their minds, they will be the Gods over other mere mortals trying to hold them back and down. They can't see that their are fallen angels who have lost their sight, their minds, their hearts and their souls. They are Narcissus who fell in love with his image. They are in love with the images in their minds and think that the rest of the society is now worthless because people don't see what they see and value what they value. They are dangerous to us. Tribal societies would eject or destroy these kind of people who didn't share and/or were murderers. They rightly saw them as a threat to the group. Not suggesting violence by any means but, metaphorically, rejection and ejection is the task of Americans who have a different vision for the welfare of the larger group.

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Donna McKee's avatar

I assume you mean "fallen angels" metaphorically. While they might seem narcissistic, I agree with Jim on this point that they are really self-loathing deep down. The apparent narcissism is a front, a put-on. The Who's "Eminence Front" might have been written for them, presciently.

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Bonnie Sue Miller's avatar

You're spot-on, Jim. These were people of extreme privilege who were raised to hate. I will never have the ability to wrap my head around their distorted view of humanity. I find it deeply troubling, and they're trying their damnedest to drag the rest of us down with them. I'm so sorry Elon, but there will be no colony on Mars. There will be no annihilation of humanity. But they will all die trying. We have to keep pushing back no matter how weary we are, and we must resist in every way possible. If you think that you have no way of fighting back; well then, you give them the win. It all comes down to the pushback. Stop buying Teslas; stop using PayPal; stop buying from Amazon; etc. And, for the love of God, get the hell off of Facebook! Do not support these "crackpots" — they are damaged goods.

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Ginger Pape's avatar

💯 and Starbase, Elon’s new Tx town is pilot for The Network State

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erin's avatar

I watched the Pee Wee Herman as Himself doc for the second time today because as my childhood hero and tween-age crush, it needed a second visit. Somehow, HBO plunked "Mountainhead " on right after. It's a flick about 4 tech-bros riding out a world crisis at one of their compounds atop a hill. Holy shit. Two films could not have been more different.

Paul Reubens (aka Pee Wee) offers kindness, compassion, empathy, mistrust, humor, kindness, compassion and empathy again, in great doses. He should never have been made a pariah or made to feel guilty about who he was. He entertained the fuck outta me and still does, posthumously. I was slaphappy with nostalgia.

Then, 'Mountainhead,' came on. It was like watching a handful of AI driven, app monkeys and decimal period moving manboys figure out how to eat their own in a time of crisis. Jesse Armstrong ( Succession writer) got it right. 3/4 of these guys were Musks and Thiels and amalgams of all the wrong in that broligarch milieu.

I am still reeling over this double feature and kind of wanna take a Silkwood shower after sitting through the second half. Oof.

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Michael Henry's avatar

Right on! This is very perceptive, thanks Jim. I've been, after research coming from your work and that of Gil Duran, Emile Torres, been coming to these same thoughts myself, but you have stated them very clearly and concisely here. Read this article, folks, it cuts to the quick about what billions and billions of dollars is being devoted to now and maybe millions of people will in the end be sacrificied in the name of. We need to keep in mind what the psychological underpinning is of these blindingly shiny, bursting with dollars TECH titans. What's really the motivation? Do not be dazzled by them without researching them -- that research is provided by Jim -- and then thinking about the meaning of what they are pursuing and how they will get there.

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Contrahour's avatar

These are the most successful and richest people in the world. They have used the systems of capitalism to generate unimaginable wealth and can literally live anywhere. You wanna live on an oil rig in the middle of the ocean, Peter, be my guest.

So I will never understand why Thiel insists everyone else has to live in his fucked up version of reality. These government and currency systems gave Thiel all the freedom he will ever have, but now he's trying to destroy them. He and all the PayPal Mafia are mad men.

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Donna McKee's avatar

Yes, destroying the very systems (finance capitalism, the federal government, the rule of law) that made Thiel, Musk and others so obscenely rich seems crazy and almost suicidal. But is that part and parcel of their self-loathing? Also, how did Thiel even get so rich, initially? IIRC, he got massive start-up subsidies for Palantir through the CIA front, In-Q-Tel. And we know about the massive government subsidies (from 'the government' that they all hate) that Musk has been getting for his corporations which are now increasing far more. Make it make sense. It's nuts!

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NoBlood4Hubris (aka A. Lady)'s avatar

Rich, yes.

Successful?

Hardly.

Money can't buy their way out of misery.

No wonder even the thought of empathy leaves them in terror.

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Jim Stewartson's avatar

They are literal evil—“the absence of empathy.”

What’s so remarkable is that our government has been perfectly happy to let them become too big to fail. It’s a tragedy of ignorance.

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